It looks like Papandreou is out. Berlusconi has agreed to step aside also. The Dow dropped 390 points today. Europe is rumored to be on the brink of utter financial collapse [according to correspondent, Chicken Little).
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Yesterday, Merril Jessop, 75, got a ten-year prison sentence in Texas for performing an "illegal" wedding ceremony. I have blogged about this before, but I just have to rub this in! What in the blazes is an illegal wedding ceremony? What element of the event is criminal? - the words? - the arrangement of people in the room? - the ages of the people in the room? What part of the FIRST AMENDMENT do Barbie and her puppet jurors not understand?
Now, I'm not saying that what Merril did was not inconceivably reckless. If he had half an inkling that these (alleged) eleven young daughters of his (whom he was surrendering to Jeffs, his colleague in the church's First Presidency) were going to be molested in short order, he should have caught the first train out of town with Carolyin and the rest of his immense tribe. However, it has also been reported that he picked up a couple of young dames in the bargain, so maybe there was some kind of wink-and-a-nod quid-pro-quo going on.
Nevertheless, I think Merril has suffered enough with the discovery of Jeffs's despicable debaucheries and the monumental humiliation. I wish there had been some kind of plea bargain opportunity (like in Wendel's case) to avoid prison time. Maybe he is feeling some sort of mea culpa and wants to fall on the sword.
The galling thing for me is the absurd contention that these fantasy ceremonies conducted in a private setting can constitute a crime in modern, 14th Amendment America. I understand all the jurisprudence surrounding enticement, grooming, aiding and abetting, complicity, collusion, and so on, but this illegal wedding idea is even more intangible (let alone its being entirely novel in Texas). In many cases, assisting in some way (even obliviously) with the actions of a criminal can be weighed and deemed criminal in and of itself, but it still seems to me like a huge stretch to criminalize a strictly religious performance - one which involves the utterance of purely religious phrases, and no more physical interaction than perhaps a brief hand-clasp, - one which presumes no legal stamp of approval, no governmental imprimatur. I weep inside at the thought that no one has the stamina to take this farce to the Supreme Court and get it overturned. In the wake of the Jeffs disgrace, however, I'd be surprised if any of his cohorts can escape the wrath of a disgusted American public. Perhaps the prosecution's view is that, despite the informal nature of the ceremony, the young girl participating in it was losing all personal and community-approved freedoms to escape imminent sexual exploitation by the putative "husband". Yet, if that is the legal standard, you would have to incarcerate the entire community - or maybe just outlaw religion.
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In other news, it has been reported that Judge Bauman will render his decision in the British Columbia polygamy reference case in a couple of weeks. Remember that this anti-polygamy case was not about establishing new, anti-polygamy legislation, it was about whether or not to uphold a 100-year-old, anti-polygamy law that was atrociously crafted and NEVER implemented. The judge has an unenviable task. Any ruling is likely to be appealed (see my earlier associated posts here and here and here).
If he rules in our (polygamists') favor, I shall cheer because he will be acknowledging what everyone already knows - that you cannot criminalize informal, multi-partner intimacies in a nation that already solemnizes legal, homosexual marriages. If he rules that the law can be lawfully applied, I shall laugh out loud because, despite my not wishing any harm on Winston Blackmore's and Jimmy Oler's families, I am DYING to see what the RCMP and the prosecutors think they can do next. Of the perhaps hundreds of faithful Fundamentalist Mormon families in the Bountiful/Creston area, which ones will they handcuff first? Will they take the women, too? I have visions of the 1953 (Short Creek) raid all over again. Sincerely, I wonder how it is that supposedly intelligent public officials can be so incredibly myopic and stupid. I guess I'm just naive.
Perhaps the law of unintended consequences will kick in, as with Bank of America's boneheaded $5.00 monthly debit card fee, or Obama's ill-fated 15-cent Christmas tree tax.
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Wednesday, November 9, 2011
Tuesday, October 18, 2011
Escape From What?
A few years ago, Carolyin Jessop co-wrote a book titled ESCAPE. I think hers was more of a philosophical escape than anything else. Jessop received a college education and ran a business away from the twin towns. It would be more accurate to say that she left her religion and ran off with her kids. In her book there is much information which would be better described as tabloid entertainment than factual narrative.
Last week, a young woman who is alleged to have been one of Warren Jeffs' wives, ran from her previous residence and sought refuge. She reportedly sought protection with the family of one of the men who left the FLDS fold (under Lyle Jeffs) when he learned of Warren's molestation of his own 12-year-old girl partners.
So I have a question. I know Warren had more wives than one. Who knows - maybe 100? He was incarcerated over five years ago (August, 2006). Presumably, those scores of wives (ranging from 12 to 92) must have been housed somewhere. Recent photos show dozens of these very young wives all together in pastel prairie dresses. I can imagine that Warren didn't want anybody else messing with them while he was away awaiting his miraculous liberation. So where did they all get put? Were they all together, or were they grouped in several locations? Were they free to speak to the media? NO. Were they free to mingle with other community members and reveal their group sex party experiences? I don't think so.
This latest escapee appears to have had to go to extreme lengths to get free. Why? Was she being detained against her will - or, worse still - was she being compulsorily medicated to facilitate the restraint? I don't know. Where are the other young sister wives of hers? Presumably, they are all still being concealed/confined in some way. Maybe they get to sew and sing hymns, or even study the writings of Prophet Warren S. Jeffs. Do they go to school? NAHH! Are they free to go into town or drive around, or even talk to their chums on the cell-phone? I bet not. Do they know what a computer is? Would they even know what to think or do if they were to be liberated?
Has there been more than one who has fled this detention situation? Do the other ninety-nine want to flee also, but cannot? Can they escape and, if so, escape from what?
If they do escape, what tales will they tell? I can think of more than a few entities who are itching to get their hands on them. How healthy would that be?
Last week, a young woman who is alleged to have been one of Warren Jeffs' wives, ran from her previous residence and sought refuge. She reportedly sought protection with the family of one of the men who left the FLDS fold (under Lyle Jeffs) when he learned of Warren's molestation of his own 12-year-old girl partners.
So I have a question. I know Warren had more wives than one. Who knows - maybe 100? He was incarcerated over five years ago (August, 2006). Presumably, those scores of wives (ranging from 12 to 92) must have been housed somewhere. Recent photos show dozens of these very young wives all together in pastel prairie dresses. I can imagine that Warren didn't want anybody else messing with them while he was away awaiting his miraculous liberation. So where did they all get put? Were they all together, or were they grouped in several locations? Were they free to speak to the media? NO. Were they free to mingle with other community members and reveal their group sex party experiences? I don't think so.
This latest escapee appears to have had to go to extreme lengths to get free. Why? Was she being detained against her will - or, worse still - was she being compulsorily medicated to facilitate the restraint? I don't know. Where are the other young sister wives of hers? Presumably, they are all still being concealed/confined in some way. Maybe they get to sew and sing hymns, or even study the writings of Prophet Warren S. Jeffs. Do they go to school? NAHH! Are they free to go into town or drive around, or even talk to their chums on the cell-phone? I bet not. Do they know what a computer is? Would they even know what to think or do if they were to be liberated?
Has there been more than one who has fled this detention situation? Do the other ninety-nine want to flee also, but cannot? Can they escape and, if so, escape from what?
If they do escape, what tales will they tell? I can think of more than a few entities who are itching to get their hands on them. How healthy would that be?
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Wednesday, September 1, 2010
No Happy Polygamists
NEWSFLASH !!!
There are no happy polygamists.
At a conference (NOVA, I think) last week, Utah deputy Attorney General Turd Korgensen gave a speech with his little buddy, Snarolyn Jessop. Between the two of them, they formally announced that there are no happy polygamists. I'm so mad that I wasn't there, because I could have introduced them to one - me!
The Salt Lake Tribune's polygamy "beat" reporter, Brooke Adams, posted on this event in her blog here.
The Utah Attorney General's office has maintained a tenuous love-hate relationship with Rocky Mountain polygs. I think "love-hate" and "tenuous" because, despite the "Primer" and the "Safety Net" and all of the private and public dialogue, the role of the AG is to "enforce the law". WHAT LAW? - you know, the one that says you are a felon if you believe in D&C 132.
The thinly-veiled hatred of us plygs could not have been more evident than in Deputy Smorgensen's rant last week. He acted like a sarcastic, insolent bully, not unlike those Arizona jailer thugs who brutalized Warren for being "religious". When the "good ol' boys" are in power, they tend to flex it. He universally vilified men in plural marriages. He mocked the FLDS community. Of Eliarsa Wall's falsehood-riddled tabloid rag book, Snarkenson said it was "marvelous". He said that Fundamentalist people have lost the ability to think for themselves (look at me - somebody else dictates every word I write in this blog). He said that Carolyn had changed his life (WHAT !!! = taught him how to stand up in front of hundreds of people and twist the truth for political and/or financial gain?).
Just like her prevaricating predecessor, Hyena Erickson, Jessflop has trumpeted the battle-cry that all polygamous women are brainwashed into thinking they are happy when they are not. Isn't thinking you are happy the very definition of happiness? I guess her rather anecdotal observation could be plausible if she had personally interviewed the tens of thousands of polygamous wives and learned that not one is happy.
A man once told me that he was sure that ALL Indians walk in single file - after all, the one he saw walking was walking in single file.
This stupid crap argument that polygamy is inherently harmful is an insult to the intelligence of even middle school kids. You cannot arrest "polygamy" and sentence it to prison time any more than you can convict a dagger for murder.
Stupid people do stupid things. Idiot people try to argue that polygamy should simply not be permitted. Well, damn it! - based on its miserable record of failure, MONOGAMY should be prohibited. Try arguing that homosexuality is inherently harmful to society. Many people feel that pornography is harmful to individuals and communities, but America has NO INTENTION of outlawing it. Immorality, fornication and adultery are easily implicated as causes for bad marriages and divorces, but nobody EVER tries to argue that they should be criminalized (even before Lawrence [2003]).
It's really all about politics, and I've decided that politics is dirty. These AG folk have sold their souls to the devil or the Church or both. They don't care about the state's sincere minority citizens. They strike dirty secret deals in backrooms with other crony, opportunistic lawyers. For them the end justifies the means. They elicit false testimony and cover their tracks when the lies threaten to blow up in their faces.
Bruce R. McConkie once wrote that the day of the Lord's second coming is foreknown and fixed. Nothing on mankind's part can hasten or delay it. (I cracked up because, not long after that) Spencer W. Kimball wrote that the timing of the Lord's return is hinged entirely on our conduct - if we are righteous, He will come quickly; if we are wicked, He will punish us by postponing (confusing, huh ??).
I'm tempted to wonder if Lord Obama (along with Reid, Pelosi, Geithner, Bernanke, Greenspan and Volcker) is rapidly accelerating the dramatic Second Coming, at which point these politician frauds will be faced with some uncomfortable choices and accountability. My recommendation - MAKE BETTER CHOICES NOW !!! Things will go better for you at the last day.
There are no happy polygamists.
At a conference (NOVA, I think) last week, Utah deputy Attorney General Turd Korgensen gave a speech with his little buddy, Snarolyn Jessop. Between the two of them, they formally announced that there are no happy polygamists. I'm so mad that I wasn't there, because I could have introduced them to one - me!
The Salt Lake Tribune's polygamy "beat" reporter, Brooke Adams, posted on this event in her blog here.
The Utah Attorney General's office has maintained a tenuous love-hate relationship with Rocky Mountain polygs. I think "love-hate" and "tenuous" because, despite the "Primer" and the "Safety Net" and all of the private and public dialogue, the role of the AG is to "enforce the law". WHAT LAW? - you know, the one that says you are a felon if you believe in D&C 132.
The thinly-veiled hatred of us plygs could not have been more evident than in Deputy Smorgensen's rant last week. He acted like a sarcastic, insolent bully, not unlike those Arizona jailer thugs who brutalized Warren for being "religious". When the "good ol' boys" are in power, they tend to flex it. He universally vilified men in plural marriages. He mocked the FLDS community. Of Eliarsa Wall's falsehood-riddled tabloid rag book, Snarkenson said it was "marvelous". He said that Fundamentalist people have lost the ability to think for themselves (look at me - somebody else dictates every word I write in this blog). He said that Carolyn had changed his life (WHAT !!! = taught him how to stand up in front of hundreds of people and twist the truth for political and/or financial gain?).
Just like her prevaricating predecessor, Hyena Erickson, Jessflop has trumpeted the battle-cry that all polygamous women are brainwashed into thinking they are happy when they are not. Isn't thinking you are happy the very definition of happiness? I guess her rather anecdotal observation could be plausible if she had personally interviewed the tens of thousands of polygamous wives and learned that not one is happy.
A man once told me that he was sure that ALL Indians walk in single file - after all, the one he saw walking was walking in single file.
This stupid crap argument that polygamy is inherently harmful is an insult to the intelligence of even middle school kids. You cannot arrest "polygamy" and sentence it to prison time any more than you can convict a dagger for murder.
Stupid people do stupid things. Idiot people try to argue that polygamy should simply not be permitted. Well, damn it! - based on its miserable record of failure, MONOGAMY should be prohibited. Try arguing that homosexuality is inherently harmful to society. Many people feel that pornography is harmful to individuals and communities, but America has NO INTENTION of outlawing it. Immorality, fornication and adultery are easily implicated as causes for bad marriages and divorces, but nobody EVER tries to argue that they should be criminalized (even before Lawrence [2003]).
It's really all about politics, and I've decided that politics is dirty. These AG folk have sold their souls to the devil or the Church or both. They don't care about the state's sincere minority citizens. They strike dirty secret deals in backrooms with other crony, opportunistic lawyers. For them the end justifies the means. They elicit false testimony and cover their tracks when the lies threaten to blow up in their faces.
Bruce R. McConkie once wrote that the day of the Lord's second coming is foreknown and fixed. Nothing on mankind's part can hasten or delay it. (I cracked up because, not long after that) Spencer W. Kimball wrote that the timing of the Lord's return is hinged entirely on our conduct - if we are righteous, He will come quickly; if we are wicked, He will punish us by postponing (confusing, huh ??).
I'm tempted to wonder if Lord Obama (along with Reid, Pelosi, Geithner, Bernanke, Greenspan and Volcker) is rapidly accelerating the dramatic Second Coming, at which point these politician frauds will be faced with some uncomfortable choices and accountability. My recommendation - MAKE BETTER CHOICES NOW !!! Things will go better for you at the last day.
Wednesday, July 28, 2010
Crackpot Gallery
Since yesterday's reversal of Warren Jeffs' "rape as a fantasy-accomplice" conviction, the crackpots have been coming out of the woodpile. I just can't resist posting some of the absurd crap they have been spouting (their words are in italics).
FLORA JESSOP: "If Warren gets a new trial, I'm afraid that the FLDS are going to kill Elissa. They'll make it look like an accident, but they will kill her."
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JON KRAKAUER: “I, for one, do not doubt that there may have been a political basis for this decision, given the five members of the — the five justices on the Supreme Court’s close ties to the LDS church and the LDS Church’s own concerns with sexual abuse and what this says about, you know, how you can tie someone who compelled the abuse but didn’t actually commit the rape, how he can be held accountable. That’s — that’s a scary thing for some members high up in the LDS church.”
"The one — the one silver lining in this is if Texas — if Utah decides not to retry Warren, he will be more quickly extradited to Texas, where he faces very serious charges, much more serious, not as an accomplice to rape but an actual rapist.
And the evidence, in the raid of 2008, they uncovered a treasure trove of evidence, including a tape recording and a transcript of Warren raping a 12-year-old girl. Actually, she had been 11 until 24 days earlier.
She had been forced to marry Jeffs. She was raped in the temple on a special bed. Two of Jeffs’s older wives participated in the rape. It was tape recorded. Every grunt and perverted prayer and command to this girl."
"Things are getting — the people in Short Creek, the loyal followers of Warren, are getting all hinked up by this. They believe, you know, the propaganda about how this shows that Warren is innocent and the state is persecuting him and we should rise up."
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CAROLYN JESSOP: "As far as what information that we’re getting, that’s leaking out, apparently the reports are it’s still occurring. It’s a strong belief in the FLDS, that if the leadership authorizes an underage marriage that you are not to question this. It is a real tragedy." – ( . . and this after Fox 13's Ben Winslow reported yesterday that Mark Shurtleff has spies within the FLDS community who are reassuring him that new "underage marriages" have not been occurring any more [Renn]).
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JEFFREY TOOBIN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: "This opinion, I find a disgrace. I had to read this opinion twice even to understand what they were saying was wrong with these jury instructions. It is the very definition of a technicality. It has nothing to do with his guilt or innocence."
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MARK SHURTLEFF told Rod Decker of channel 2 news that this was his worst loss before the Utah Supreme Court.
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So, my responses are:
TO FLORA:
Stop sniffing so much glue. You will become progressively dumber with each tube you sniff!
TO CRACKAUER:
Stop sniffing Flora's glue. The LDS Church hates the FLDS more than you do, so any connection between the Court and the Church would surely have impelled it to rule against Warren and not in his favor. You are another one of those liberal idiots who thinks the Constitution is like a father who won't give the keys of his Cadillac to his twelve-year-old son, so it should be abolished. Remember that the the vigilante justice you crave will eventually take your freedoms away, too.
Plus, you can yak all you want about a sex tape but, if it exists, it was illegally seized, and it will NEVER be allowed into evidence. What law-enforcement official leaked it to you, and how is it proof of a crime that cannot have occurred? All you are is a pathetic sensation-monger.
TO CAROLYN:
Get your facts straight. If you are so right about the ubiquitous rigidity of FLDS leadership, don't you think that no sane member would dare to contravene its rules and marry an underage girl anyway? Live by the sword - die by the sword (or the American legal system).
TO TOOBIN:
I had no idea that you were such an idiot, too. The jury instructions may have been what merited the reversal, but the charges themselves were just as unconstitutional. If the charges and the crime were truly valid all along, you will soon see Shurtleff agreeing to a swift retrial, and, if that happens, I'll give you one of my wives. If the Court could have found any grounds on which to uphold the conviction, its deep ties to the Utah establishment would have sealed the deal. Come and visit Utah, and you will learn that hatred of polygamists is hard-coded into the local DNA. Polygamists only win when all other avenues for bigotry and persecution have been exhausted.
TO SHURTLEFF:
Get a life! I don't believe that all the fuss you make about nailing Warren (and bungling his conviction) is sincere. I believe it is all politics and grandstanding. Elissa Wall has not been entirely truthful, and you know it. Go catch some real criminals.
I made a point of re-reading the Supreme Court's opinion and, in particular, its surprisingly cringing apology and disclaimer. You will notice that the Court makes reference to the "underlying crime". This is baffling because, if Warren Jeffs is now once again presumed to be innocent, and Allen Steed has not been convicted, what possible "CRIME" could they talking about? Amid the rest of their unanimous Constitutional brilliance, how could they have overlooked this major boo-boo?
"We regret the effect our opinion today may have on the victim of the underlying crime, to whom we do not wish to cause additional pain. However, we must ensure that the laws are applied evenly and appropriately, in this case as in every case, in order to protect the constitutional principles on which our legal system is based."
OOPS !!!!
FLORA JESSOP: "If Warren gets a new trial, I'm afraid that the FLDS are going to kill Elissa. They'll make it look like an accident, but they will kill her."
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JON KRAKAUER: “I, for one, do not doubt that there may have been a political basis for this decision, given the five members of the — the five justices on the Supreme Court’s close ties to the LDS church and the LDS Church’s own concerns with sexual abuse and what this says about, you know, how you can tie someone who compelled the abuse but didn’t actually commit the rape, how he can be held accountable. That’s — that’s a scary thing for some members high up in the LDS church.”
"The one — the one silver lining in this is if Texas — if Utah decides not to retry Warren, he will be more quickly extradited to Texas, where he faces very serious charges, much more serious, not as an accomplice to rape but an actual rapist.
And the evidence, in the raid of 2008, they uncovered a treasure trove of evidence, including a tape recording and a transcript of Warren raping a 12-year-old girl. Actually, she had been 11 until 24 days earlier.
She had been forced to marry Jeffs. She was raped in the temple on a special bed. Two of Jeffs’s older wives participated in the rape. It was tape recorded. Every grunt and perverted prayer and command to this girl."
"Things are getting — the people in Short Creek, the loyal followers of Warren, are getting all hinked up by this. They believe, you know, the propaganda about how this shows that Warren is innocent and the state is persecuting him and we should rise up."
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CAROLYN JESSOP: "As far as what information that we’re getting, that’s leaking out, apparently the reports are it’s still occurring. It’s a strong belief in the FLDS, that if the leadership authorizes an underage marriage that you are not to question this. It is a real tragedy." – ( . . and this after Fox 13's Ben Winslow reported yesterday that Mark Shurtleff has spies within the FLDS community who are reassuring him that new "underage marriages" have not been occurring any more [Renn]).
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JEFFREY TOOBIN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: "This opinion, I find a disgrace. I had to read this opinion twice even to understand what they were saying was wrong with these jury instructions. It is the very definition of a technicality. It has nothing to do with his guilt or innocence."
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MARK SHURTLEFF told Rod Decker of channel 2 news that this was his worst loss before the Utah Supreme Court.
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So, my responses are:
TO FLORA:
Stop sniffing so much glue. You will become progressively dumber with each tube you sniff!
TO CRACKAUER:
Stop sniffing Flora's glue. The LDS Church hates the FLDS more than you do, so any connection between the Court and the Church would surely have impelled it to rule against Warren and not in his favor. You are another one of those liberal idiots who thinks the Constitution is like a father who won't give the keys of his Cadillac to his twelve-year-old son, so it should be abolished. Remember that the the vigilante justice you crave will eventually take your freedoms away, too.
Plus, you can yak all you want about a sex tape but, if it exists, it was illegally seized, and it will NEVER be allowed into evidence. What law-enforcement official leaked it to you, and how is it proof of a crime that cannot have occurred? All you are is a pathetic sensation-monger.
TO CAROLYN:
Get your facts straight. If you are so right about the ubiquitous rigidity of FLDS leadership, don't you think that no sane member would dare to contravene its rules and marry an underage girl anyway? Live by the sword - die by the sword (or the American legal system).
TO TOOBIN:
I had no idea that you were such an idiot, too. The jury instructions may have been what merited the reversal, but the charges themselves were just as unconstitutional. If the charges and the crime were truly valid all along, you will soon see Shurtleff agreeing to a swift retrial, and, if that happens, I'll give you one of my wives. If the Court could have found any grounds on which to uphold the conviction, its deep ties to the Utah establishment would have sealed the deal. Come and visit Utah, and you will learn that hatred of polygamists is hard-coded into the local DNA. Polygamists only win when all other avenues for bigotry and persecution have been exhausted.
TO SHURTLEFF:
Get a life! I don't believe that all the fuss you make about nailing Warren (and bungling his conviction) is sincere. I believe it is all politics and grandstanding. Elissa Wall has not been entirely truthful, and you know it. Go catch some real criminals.
I made a point of re-reading the Supreme Court's opinion and, in particular, its surprisingly cringing apology and disclaimer. You will notice that the Court makes reference to the "underlying crime". This is baffling because, if Warren Jeffs is now once again presumed to be innocent, and Allen Steed has not been convicted, what possible "CRIME" could they talking about? Amid the rest of their unanimous Constitutional brilliance, how could they have overlooked this major boo-boo?
"We regret the effect our opinion today may have on the victim of the underlying crime, to whom we do not wish to cause additional pain. However, we must ensure that the laws are applied evenly and appropriately, in this case as in every case, in order to protect the constitutional principles on which our legal system is based."
OOPS !!!!
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